I'm here talking to Ginger Richardson,

who is Vice President for Education and Outreach

at the Santa Fe Institute.

So, Ginger, what's happening in the education program

besides our MOOC?

Well, I think your MOOC is the most exciting thing

that is currently happening in the educational program.

But one thing I would like to tell our group about

are the residential activities we have here on site
in Santa Fe,

both at the institute and at other local venues.

So our longest standing program, which is now 
28 years old,

is our Complex Systems Summer School and 
that is a month long program,

an intense school that takes place here in 
Santa Fe, every June.

We have about 60 students and I would like to urge 
all of you who are now participating in the MOOC

to think about moving ahead and applying to the 
Complex Systems Summer School.

The other projects that we have on an ongoing basis 
are residential fellowships and those generally

involve undergraduate students.

Although we do have grad students and 
sometimes even high schoolers on campus.

From, any time from three weeks to ten weeks, 
usually in the summer.

And for the summer school, what qualifications do 
people need to apply for that?

We ask that you submit a resume which covers 
your interests

and we hope that you have some background in 
mathematics.

We actually end up with a very very diverse group 
of students

who represent disciplines ranging from the physical 
sciences through the social sciences and even individuals

who are actually in the world working in fields like 
forestry, medicine who are coming to the school to

gain insight into a complex systems approach.

So anyone can apply, not just, graduate students?

Most of the students at the school are graduate 
students, in fact.

and I would say that three quarters of the group 
are at that level in their education.

We do have some post-doctoral fellows and we 
do have some professionals, but yes generally

they are graduate students who are engaged
in active research.

Now suppose somebody's a high school student 
or an undergrad or just an ordinary person,

is there a way for them to get involved in the 
educational program besides the MOOC?

Well, certainly if you're an undergrad, as I said, 
we have our residential fellowship program.

How do they apply for that?

Go online to our education site at www.santafe.edu 
and look at the requirements

and they can apply online.

We do have a summer camp for high school 
students that we offer around the country.

This year it happens to be in Massachusetts.

And that's a two week program for high school kids 
who are interested in computer programming and

agent based modeling, again you can check that 
out on our website.

Alright, well, are we done?

Yeah, it's great talking to you.

Great talking to you, too.